2010/09/19多大的黑格才可帶回家加菜的尺寸呢?

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<FONT size=3><IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a52.gif" smilieid="113">&nbsp;如標題所述的話題一直在各釣魚網站中爭論不休<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a27.gif" smilieid="131"> 四指以上的黑格寬度要比橫向香菸盒寬<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 這種黑格在釣友眼中算是可帶回家加菜的尺寸嗎?<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 在釣魚網站中各界釣友始終持著不同方向的看法<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a31.gif" smilieid="132"> 也為這個問題爭論不休常常引起筆戰<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a27.gif" smilieid="131"> 永安為此問題提出個人淺拙的看法也歡迎各界釣友進來<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 參與一場無傷大雅純友誼的戰爭<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a27.gif" smilieid="131"> 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src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 詢問正在搬魚獲上卡車的船主<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 該種魚獲可送至魚市場賣給消費者嗎?<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 船主回答說<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a52.gif" smilieid="113"> 這種魚獲賣不出去啦<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 因為出海抓不到大魚<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 所以抓一些小魚要送去加工做魚飼料補貼一些油錢<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a39.gif" smilieid="118"> 永安聽了差點昏倒在地<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a39.gif" smilieid="118"> 三十幾箱的小魚若給他長大後<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 恐怕十台漁船都載不動他們<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 今日一台漁船因抓不到大魚就抓小魚送去加工作成飼料貼補油錢<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a31.gif" smilieid="132"> 台灣沿海能有多少魚可抓呢?<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 後來在附近打聽之下得知<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 抓小魚加工當飼料的漁船不光只有一台<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a31.gif" smilieid="132"> 而且這種情形在各港口天天上演<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a39.gif" smilieid="118"> 回想去年初在台北港888長堤肉粽區苦心經營一處秘密菜園<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 好不容易黑格由菜苗慢慢成長可拔取的蔬菜<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a35.gif" smilieid="130"> 在收成歡樂時光沒多久<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 菜園前方約10公尺處佈滿一道又一道的流刺網<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a44.gif" smilieid="116"> 肥沃的菜園瞬間變成荒蕪的沙漠<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a44.gif" smilieid="116"> 在中南部釣友的眼中四指黑格仍屬於應放生的小魚<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 但是綜觀以上的因素<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 中部以北的釣點四指黑格已經相當不錯的體形了<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a35.gif" smilieid="130"> 因為地理環境不同加上海洋資源管理不當<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 漁獲尺寸大小真的難以評論<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 如果說釣友仍堅持四指黑格仍屬於應放生的小魚<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 那麼以馬祖地區釣友的官感來評論<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a52.gif" smilieid="113"> 斤級的黑格仍屬於應放生的小魚<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 更不用提到日本及歐美地區的標準了<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 台灣喜愛釣魚的人口雖然不少<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 但是每日的漁獲量有限<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 造成海洋資源損傷微乎其微<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 真正造成海洋枯竭的殺手是何人?<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 相信大家看完以上論點都知道<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 但是會有釣友挺身而出仗義執言嗎?<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a27.gif" smilieid="131"> 永安也了解對方人高權重不是我們這些人微言輕的小老百姓惹的起<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a30.gif" smilieid="112"> 只能眼睜睜的看著海洋資源被破壞殆盡<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a44.gif" smilieid="116"> 釣魚活動每個人都是由新手進入再慢慢學習釣技<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 剛開始學著釣魚時<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 只要求釣到魚既可不論大小<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 之後轉變成尋覓大物<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 最後專攻特種魚類<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 對於新手而言<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 釣獲三指半的黑格已經算是不容易的事<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 大家應該給予新手鼓勵<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 不能以自己的多年的技能去評斷一位新手<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 畢竟地理環境不同<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 加上釣技經驗差距不一樣<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/ufish2/a23.gif" smilieid="129"> 對魚獲尺寸應放寬心胸看待比較好喔.<IMG border=0 alt="" 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r78685

我只喜歡拉爽爽,全車下海,外島釣的才帶回最多5支

z162031

太小或是抱卵的母魚放生
以後可以釣更多的魚
這樣不是很好嗎

arlong

釣魚也要有釣客的品味, 看到那些漁民的魚貨, 我姑且相信那是漁撈起來的結果(因為網目太小), 釣魚的人還是應該放走小魚...

不要問我啦

有何不可 :manto8: 9層塔一株都能買200元了.若是要一味的加罪於百姓.政府為何不是更應該嚴法自律.上樑不正下樑則歪.再說拖網船拖上來的魚貨就算丟下海也活不成.說穿了不在其中根本不知道痛處在哪.如果有大魚抓誰想抓小魚?漁業法徒有虛表有表而不施.

玉米蟲

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原帖由 <I>arb67brz</I> 於 2010-9-20 21:04 發表 <A href="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1100057&amp;ptid=65293" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 我相信愛釣魚的人.心中都有自己的一把尺

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<P>對對對....我也相信愛釣魚的人心中都有一把尺</P>
<P>只是這把尺的單位可能不一樣</P>
<P>有人是以mm(米厘)計算</P>
<P>有人的單位是以cm(公分)及(英吋)計算</P>
<P>也有人是以m( 公尺)及(台尺)計算</P>
<P>搞不好也有人釣魚不帶尺的</P>
<P>反正有拉爽爽就好</P>
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<P>但是呢!!有一種情形我會覺得會比拉魚更爽的事</P>
<P>因為我帶回的魚獲是以台尺計算(一台尺的黑鯛差不多一斤)</P>
<P>當釣獲不足一台尺的黑鯛,當著以公分為單位的人前面放生</P>
<P>看到那人臉上驚訝及挽惜的表情就比拉魚還爽<IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> <IMG alt="" 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冰舞

<P>其實這是看釣者的心態吧...</P>
<P>若是釣休閒的...應該幾乎都會放生吧...</P>
<P>如果是想帶回家打牙祭的...</P>
<P>個人認為...<FONT size=6>夠吃</FONT>就好...</P>
<P>可以吃的SIZE..帶個3-4隻就夠了吧..那種2-3指的..也沒什麼肉..</P>
<P>永安大會發這帖我想是跟他之前其他的文章中有提過..</P>
<P>漁市場在賣的黑格大概也才4~5指(約25CM大小的)..</P>
<P>南寮漁港大多都是2隻1盤150元...</P>
<P>這種大小大概也是半斤左右的SIZE..</P>
<P>所以.這種SIZE帶個3-4隻..也夠吃個2-3天了吧..</P>
<P>只是可能會想...如果後面又釣到更大的怎麼辦....這就看個人囉...</P>

s23875911

存脆. . . 拉爽爽

只能說一樣米養百人   

colin_tseng2003

我是覺得釣魚災狼送ㄟ啦!!!以前剛開始釣魚，爛竿子沈底那裡丟浮標那裡站乩乩釣，管它什麼魚我也抓，有釣到就很高興了，一路風風魚魚走來，一直到現在專攻黑格兄(說到黑格也真可憐，為什麼大家都要欺負它不找別人呢???)，也是到後來髓著配備和技術提升，帶回的魚体才慢慢要求自己，我想這是一個過程，釣魚是會進化的，你進化了嗎~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~&nbsp;

星南小高

<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=6>把鉤子放大1 號 子線也放大1號以上 </FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=6>要帶回家的請以"夠吃就好"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=6>拉爽爽才是重點~~</FONT></P>

jiedeng

好文推推

arb67brz

我相信愛釣魚的人.心中都有自己的一把尺

wa959

台灣漁業資源匱乏主因就是因為 姑息 , 貪婪
也許只有等到有天蹲在海邊什麼也沒有的時候才會覺醒, 好吧, 致之死地而後生

berg

心中都有一把尺.不要太要求別人......

m187644

<FONT size=7><FONT size=5>直得堆堆的好文章</FONT>,釣魚只為休閒,休閒只為拉爽爽,</FONT><FONT size=5>你們認為呢?</FONT>

wa959

正因為可因人而異的自由心證,所以才要訂定遊戲規則,澳洲魚很多當地人也不像我們那麼愛吃魚,都訂立各種捉魚標準,在每個釣魚點設立設立釣魚手冊供釣客領取,什麼魚多大可以捉,什麼魚不能抓,罰則嚴格清楚,台灣魚況一年不如一年,難道不需要立法保護,只有嚴格執行才能保證有魚釣,對吧,大家也不希望終其一生在海邊摃龜吧

wer44111

灣各位看官如意:本網站已存在多久了?咱們那些相關及有關的政府部門曾經出面來說個幾句負責或應對的話?沒有吧!選舉就快到了,大官們是否也應該抽個空瀏覽一下咱們的網站出個聲.....或許....嘿嘿

ady05178

<P>永安大大<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/msn1/1.gif" smilieid="91"> </P>
<P>那是那裡的漁民啊!</P>
<P>小魚這樣捕當然沒有小魚可以長大到變大魚</P>
<P>他們捕不到大魚是應該的</P>
<P>天作孽有可為..........</P>
<P><IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/msn1/msn3.gif" smilieid="88">&nbsp;</P>
<P>我們釣友們也是要借鏡</P>
<P>個人我們除非吞釣的短命小魚不然五指寬以下一律放生</P>
<P>只捉半斤上的魚</P>
<P>有一些魚像黑格</P>
<P>就算吞釣也可以活</P>
<P>只要我們直接剪線不要為了一支釣子</P>
<P>要了一尾魚的命</P>
<P>多一尾小魚多一次釣大魚的機會</P>
<P>加油!</P>

roctw

說真的~我很贊同永安大大的說法西北部地區包括桃園永安~竹圍~淡水~金山~石門一年才出幾條黑牛釣的到四指以上的就該偷笑了我都習慣活餌網先養著~萬一只釣到1~2條上不了餐桌就把放回去三條以上基本上是要帶回去交差要不然家虎老是在身邊聞來聞去~懷疑我是去找香香

玉米蟲

<P>大小看各人啦</P>
<P>我現在是不上斤的黑鯛一律放生</P>
<P>吞勾的話只要沒流大量的血,眼睛沒被鈎破</P>
<P>鈎柄只要在魚嘴裡面,我也一律不解鈎,直接剪線放生</P>
<P>我在網站上也po過文說黑鯛吞鈎剪線放生,</P>
<P>它自己會吐鈎,存活機會90%以上</P>
<P>這是有實驗過的,可是很多人不信</P>
<P>不信也就算了反而回了一堆有的沒的, </P>
<P>網站上不想引發嘴炮,我懶得講了</P>
<P>要信就信吧<IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/sweat.gif" smilieid="52"> <IMG border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.unitedfishingnet.com/images/smilies/default/sweat.gif" smilieid="52"></P>

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